Another lesson learned

[Interceptor]

My brother hab an accident with that situation. The other Driver overtook a bycycle and
my brother had to drive off the road to avoid a head on colision. After 2 years in court and
after three hearings the other Driver finally confessed that he overtook the cycler.

At first he said that there was no cycler, complete liar. But the cycler just took of and my brother had
no witnesses. In the end my brother got his Money from the insurance, but had to wait 2 years.
Without his legal expenses insurance that would not be posible.

With a daschcam, the whole hearing would have been 5 minutes and done. But they are also not allowed
here in Austria. I drove for a couple years with a dashcam until i got fined for it. Since then i only ride
my bike with a helmet cam, no more dashcam in the car. But i also have a good legal expenses insurance.
Just in case.

[Fummins]

Wow, that would really suck! I've caught a few accidents on my dashcam, thankfully I wasn't involved. One thing I noticed about a lot of slow drivers is a lot of them have dashcams front and back, so they can catch people tailgating then passing and cutting them off. It's almost like they're just driving around pissing people off wishing they were cops and looking for an insurance claim.

[Tyrelirwin]

It's a misconception that you have to drive slowly to hypermile.

Good call. I think mostly in terms of highway driving, becuase I drive 95% highway.

And hypermiling on the highway either means going slow or drafting or pulse + glide. (as I understand)

None of these make for someone I want to share the road with.

[Tyrelirwin]

My post was initially centered on the false and confused claim that speed limits are both minimums and maximums, which has lead to the bigger discussion of aggressive driving.

We don't have posted minimum speed limits on the highways here, so the posted limit DOES act as a min/max.

If you go 10% under the posted limit on the QE2 (in clear weather), it's often more dangerous than going 10% OVER the limit.

[Fummins]

I actually think a lot of people are more aggressive when in the presence of a mirage or any tiny car, metro etc. I feel they go extra fast by with that "I'll show this little car who's boss" obviously they have deep rooted issues but it seems I've noticed that driving my mirage plenty. Where I dont botice it driving my Tundra. And I dont accelerate any faster so thats not a reason.

I find that as well! Every time without fail, as soon as I get into a Mirage I have people on my ass within seconds. If someone if tailgating in the truck I tap the brakes, if that doesn't work they get to drive through a cloud of smoke. The later seems to work every time without fail

[Eggman]

We don't have posted minimum speed limits on the highways here, so the posted limit DOES act as a min/max.

If you go 10% under the posted limit on the QE2 (in clear weather), it's often more dangerous than going 10% OVER the limit.

I would like to see your laws that specify your posted speed limits are both minimums and maximums. Any online references will suffice. What province are we talking about?

[Fummins]

I would like to see your laws that specify your posted speed limits are both minimums and maximums. Any online references will suffice. What province are we talking about?

The closest I could find was this: http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Regs/2002_304.pdf
Part 1
Rules of the Road
Division 1
Speed Generally
Driving at appropriate speed
2(1) A person shall not do any of the following:
(a) notwithstanding that a speed limit is prescribed by or
pursuant to the Act or any other Act in respect of a
highway, drive a vehicle on that highway at any rate of
speed that is unreasonable having regard to all the
circumstances, including without restricting the generality
of the foregoing, the following:

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(i) the nature, condition and use of the highway;
(ii) the atmospheric, weather or other conditions that
might affect the visibility of the driver or the control
of the vehicle;
(iii) the amount of traffic that is or that might reasonably
be expected to be on the highway;
(iv) the mechanical condition of the vehicle or any
equipment on the vehicle;
(b) subject to this Part and Part 2, where a highway that is
located outside an urban area has 2 or more traffic lanes
on the same side of the centre line for use by vehicles
travelling in the same direction, drive a vehicle in the
traffic lane nearest the centre line unless the vehicle is
being driven at or near the maximum speed permitted;
(c) drive a vehicle at such a slow rate of speed so as to
impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of
traffic then existing on a highway except when it is
necessary to do so for the safe operation of the vehicle or
to comply with Parts 1 and 2.
(2) Notwithstanding subsection (1)(b), a person driving a vehicle
on a highway at a speed that is below the maximum speed limit that
is established or prescribed for that highway may drive the vehicle
in the traffic lane nearest to the centre line for the purpose of
overtaking and passing another vehicle.
(3) A peace officer may direct a person who is driving a vehicle in
contravention of subsection (1)(c) or section 115(2)(q) of the Act to
do one or more of the following:
(a) increase the rate of speed at which the vehicle is
travelling;
(b) remove the vehicle from the roadway;
(c) drive the vehicle in a different traffic lane.
(4) Where a peace officer gives a direction to a person driving a
vehicle under subsection (3), that person shall operate the vehicle
in accordance with the direction.
AR 304/2002 s2;8/2005
Slow moving vehicles
3(1) If a person driving a vehicle is driving the vehicle on a
highway at a speed that is less than the normal speed of the traffic

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on the highway at that time and place and under the conditions then
existing, that person shall drive the vehicle
(a) in the right traffic lane then available for traffic, or
(b) as close as practicable to the right curb or edge of the
roadway,
except when either
(c) overtaking and passing another vehicle travelling in the
same direction, or
(d) preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private
road or driveway.
(2) If a traffic control device directs slow moving traffic to use a
designated traffic lane, a person when driving a vehicle slowly
shall drive the vehicle only in that lane.

[Eggman]

That's all cool and good regarding traveling in the passing lane.

Do you have anything that addresses minimum speed limits regarding general motoring?

[Fummins]

Well no. But I'm sure it's around here somewhere! I'll let Tyreliriwn go find it that law. It might be near the one that say's they actually need a reason to pull you over

[Tyrelirwin]

That's all cool and good regarding traveling in the passing lane.

Do you have anything that addresses minimum speed limits regarding general motoring?

Feel free to come drive 20 under the limit and see what happens. I imagine that barring any accidents or pull-overs, you'll get plenty of one finger salutes.

I didn't claim it was law, I said that driving intentionally slow was a hazard. I stand by that.