Air conditioner not very cold

[7milesout]

I'll catch up to Scotty one day...
I want to do more Mirage stuff but run out of ideas and time too often.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...NEdPILqLgekFXc

How bout my idea (that I posted some time ago) about pitting the Mirage heavy haul tow rig, versus the F-150 Lightening as "which one is the better tow rig" idea.

Yeah sure, the Mirage is not a tow rig. But don't say that around my Blueberry, you'd hurt his feelings. And I recently towed up to the hills (near the Tail of the Dragon) with the Blueberry. It was quite pleasant. The (stupid) idea is the put the Lightening at a disadvantage to have to find a place to charge on this not so very far tow, but in an area where chargers are going to be sparse (the hills). And see if the Lightening is a nuisance. And also see how much it costs to run the Lightening compared to the Blueberry.

The Blueberry got something like 33.7 mpg towing my 1,500 pound trailer & murdersickle combo. That amount of gas is pretty cheap. I have a feeling the Lightening might cost more to charge than the gas used in the Mirage. Plus, the amount of time waiting on the friggin Lightening to charge ... the Blueberry might just win!

Fly on down, we'll launch your Scotty Kilmer killer videos, I'll wave my arms around a lot, but I'm no where near as pretty as Kilmer.

[Fummins]

How bout my idea (that I posted some time ago) about pitting the Mirage heavy haul tow rig, versus the F-150 Lightening as "which one is the better tow rig" idea.

Yeah sure, the Mirage is not a tow rig. But don't say that around my Blueberry, you'd hurt his feelings. And I recently towed up to the hills (near the Tail of the Dragon) with the Blueberry. It was quite pleasant. The (stupid) idea is the put the Lightening at a disadvantage to have to find a place to charge on this not so very far tow, but in an area where chargers are going to be sparse (the hills). And see if the Lightening is a nuisance. And also see how much it costs to run the Lightening compared to the Blueberry.

The Blueberry got something like 33.7 mpg towing my 1,500 pound trailer & murdersickle combo. That amount of gas is pretty cheap. I have a feeling the Lightening might cost more to charge than the gas used in the Mirage. Plus, the amount of time waiting on the friggin Lightening to charge ... the Blueberry might just win!

Fly on down, we'll launch your Scotty Kilmer killer videos, I'll wave my arms around a lot, but I'm no where near as pretty as Kilmer.

Yeah, a lighting wouldn't have fun going where we go glamping. But the weirdest ev thing I've ever seen was a Telsa parked at a "reserve"(but technically in this case, these folks are squatters on crown land) in the absolute middle of bf nowhere(it's about a 3hr drive from the nearest town) but not terribly far from where we quad, about a 40 min ride away. The place looks like a third world country/war zone, extension cords run across the road, horses and dogs running wild, garbage everywhere, every yard had 3-4 vehicles up on blocks. I don't know if they have power run out there or if they just use generators? There are no sewers or running water, they haul water with buckets etc...But there's this black model S parked behind a chain link fence. I wouldn't be surprised if it's still there next time I go through there.

But yeah, I don't think I'll get out there anytime soon. You can stop by my place and watch me drink beer on your way to alaska. Grab that piston at the same time lol

[7milesout]

Take a picture of that Tesla next time by there.

[Eggman]

But the weirdest ev thing I've ever seen was a Telsa parked at a "reserve"(but technically in this case, these folks are squatters on crown land) in the absolute middle of bf nowhere

This reminds me of a trip we took last year to visit a family farm. We took the Tesla and since we were there for a long weekend I plugged in and charged up on Level 1 (120v@8amps or so.) I ran the charging cord into the barn. Charging took over two days at that rate, but since we weren't going anywhere I just let it charge up. It worked for that situation. Some other scenario and I would have had to hit a Supercharger somewhere either going out or coming back. Since then I bought a pack of adapters that will allow charging on other outlets - next time I plan on using the old welder outlet for a faster charge rate.

[BarneyClown]

for clarification:
From my previous post, I'm sorry for the confusion what I meant by the part that I hosed with water was the evaporator though compressor is what the mechanic did really suspect.

Now for an update:
I brought my car to another A/C specialist and told me that I have to have my A/C cleaned to check for leaks. He checked the refrigerant and said it was low and upon checking the driver side vents blow less cold air than the ones on the passenger side. True enough upon removing the evaporator with the blower/fan, a there was a leak on the evaporator. He showed us by submerging the evaporator underwater and then filling it with refrigerant. There are bubbles coming out of the evap. So I had it replaced. The replacement is made in Thailand and the brand is Denso (which are popular here in The Philippines for automotive cooling system parts). Right now it is all good. I can feel the difference though when the service is done the sun became shy and I wasn't able to really test the new evap against the scorching, sweltering, humid, summer of my country.

Do any of you know who made the factory evaporators in our Mirages? Because the mechanic told me that evaporators should be cleaned yearly but I did the math. Cleaning with refrigerant refilling costs 2500 Php and the new evap costs 8500 Php. Without cleaning my evap for 4 years, buying a new one can be cheaper and better(?). This is assuming this Denso evap can last 7 years too as did my factory one. So any one knew who manufactured the stock evaps? And does cleaning really does have to be yearly?

Another thought: I suspect that the first mechanic might have overfilled the system with refrigerant thus increasing pressure thus, making a leak on the evap. Are my speculations right or was it really corrosion due to molds as a lack of cleaning is the real culprit as per the mechanic who replaced it?

PS: I asked if they did service a lot of Mirages and he said yes and the most usual problem is the compressor. He said replacing it is also replacing the whole system as well like the expansion valve, dryer, etc. Thoughts?

[Fummins]

I assume your climate plays a big factor. High humidity might help things corrode quicker. If there's dirt or other stuff that worked it's way into the evaporator fins it doesn't take long for it to turn to powder.

The dryer on these cars, at least over here, is part of the condenser.

I'll try to find an oem evaporator that I have in the warehouse and see who made it. Denso is relatively common here, often found on oem import cars parts.

I haven't seen a compressor failure on a Mirage first hand but we don't have to run our ac nearly as often as you would.

I don't know what I'd do but in Cad, those prices are dirt cheap! 2500ph=$65cad. I usually don't fix what isn't broken but if you have mold growing in your heater box, you might want to have that taken care of regularly.

[7milesout]

And does cleaning really does have to be yearly?

I wouldn't think so, but I don't live where you do.

Another thought: I suspect that the first mechanic might have overfilled the system with refrigerant thus increasing pressure thus, making a leak on the evap. Are my speculations right or was it really corrosion due to molds as a lack of cleaning is the real culprit as per the mechanic who replaced it?

I seriously doubt overfilling the system would increase the pressure enough to break open a leak. Not likely. If the evaporator is leaking, in my mind, more than likely it was due to a part defect. A very slight part defect. But I don't know what kind of contaminents / dirt might be getting into your evaporator (fins) and what that might do to it.

PS: I asked if they did service a lot of Mirages and he said yes and the most usual problem is the compressor. He said replacing it is also replacing the whole system as well like the expansion valve, dryer, etc. Thoughts?

I guess it's possible. Especially in a place as hot as yours, the compressor will run more. What that mechanic is saying is that when a compressor goes bad, it doesn't just stop all at once and that's it. It starts sending crap from the compressor into the whole system through the lines before it completely fails. Some places try to flush it all out. Other places might tend to just replace it all. Both methods are reasonable I guess. Failures like this come from an OEM trying to use the cheapest components available in order to keep the cost of a car down. A downside of owning a cheap car I suppose.

[Wallythacker]

I wouldn't think so, but I don't live where you do.



I seriously doubt overfilling the system would increase the pressure enough to break open a leak. Not likely. If the evaporator is leaking, in my mind, more than likely it was due to a part defect. A very slight part defect. But I don't know what kind of contaminents / dirt might be getting into your evaporator (fins) and what that might do to it.

I guess it's possible. Especially in a place as hot as yours, the compressor will run more. What that mechanic is saying is that when a compressor goes bad, it doesn't just stop all at once and that's it. It starts sending crap from the compressor into the whole system through the lines before it completely fails. Some places try to flush it all out. Other places might tend to just replace it all. Both methods are reasonable I guess. Failures like this come from an OEM trying to use the cheapest components available in order to keep the cost of a car down. A downside of owning a cheap car I suppose.

But any failures get charged back to the supplier. that part burns me. You take your defective car in, you pay the dealer to replace the dud components then those duds go back to whoever made them and Mitsu gets a great big credit out of this. It PAYS Mitsu to put the cheapest prone to fail crap in their cars. Their rep will hurt, but not the bottom line as long as sales don't stall.

[BarneyClown]

I assume your climate plays a big factor. High humidity might help things corrode quicker. If there's dirt or other stuff that worked it's way into the evaporator fins it doesn't take long for it to turn to powder.

The dryer on these cars, at least over here, is part of the condenser.

I'll try to find an oem evaporator that I have in the warehouse and see who made it. Denso is relatively common here, often found on oem import cars parts.

I haven't seen a compressor failure on a Mirage first hand but we don't have to run our ac nearly as often as you would.

I don't know what I'd do but in Cad, those prices are dirt cheap! 2500ph=$65cad. I usually don't fix what isn't broken but if you have mold growing in your heater box, you might want to have that taken care of regularly.

could this help you identifying it? That is the only marking that I could see on it. I wasn't able to inspect the Denso that was placed in my car to compare with any markings.

[BarneyClown]

This is the condition of my bad evaporator. This was already cleaned so the molds are not seen though upon its removal I held it and molds were not really that much visible but when I touched it, it was sticky specially on the foam parts below where I assume all the condensed water drips. The leaks are also not visible they are too minute to see but two were seen one in the fins and the other at the bottom.

Climate do really have different effects on our cars as reading along your replies sure seems none of you encounters this. Heaters in our cars is pretty much useless.