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    Quote Originally Posted by inuvik View Post
    One should realistically not look at the propulsion operating cost per mile as the true cost factor.
    Agreed. I knew an EV would have a lower fuel cost per mile, but I wanted to run a simple example to see how many miles you would have to drive to even come close to breaking even on the price of the vehicle. It was a lot more miles than I would have guessed!

    I just talked myself out of a Bolt...


    How in the world do you get electric that cheap?
    In Ohio you can purchase electricity from 50+ different providers. Once a year I go out to this website and compare all the electricity prices in 1 place. I go with the cheapest provider that doesn't have fees or negative restrictions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Fuel View Post
    Agreed. I knew an EV would have a lower fuel cost per mile, but i wanted to run a simple example to see how many miles you would have to drive to even come close to breaking even on the price of the vehicle. It was a lot more miles than I would have guessed!

    I just talked myself out of a Bolt...


    In Ohio you can purchase electricity from 50+ different providers. Once a year I go out to this website and compare all the electricity prices in 1 place. I go with the cheapest provider that doesn't have fees or negative restrictions.
    That is pretty awesome that you get to choose. I don't think I have those options is lil old Kentucky, but I am gonna have to do some research it seems!
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    You can choose down here in Louisiana, but the choice also tends to involve a change in residence. lol

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    Technically I get free electric with my apartment (infinite MPG?), but the landlord would probably not be happy having hanging electric lines out the 10th floor window and down two blocks to charge my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirageman38 View Post
    Technically I get free electric with my apartment (infinite MPG?), but the landlord would probably not be happy having hanging electric lines out the 10th floor window and down two blocks to charge my car.
    I can't own an electric car, because I only buy vehicles with manual transmissions. A quiet, pleasant riding electric car would absolutely bore me to death!

    I can see why others might like that, however!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    I can't own an electric car, because I only buy vehicles with manual transmissions. An quiet, pleasant riding electric car would absolutely bore me to death!

    I can see why others might like that, however!!!!!
    Try one. I think you'd like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggman View Post
    Try one. I think you'd like it.
    Buying a hydrostatic riding lawnmower was a stretch for me, but I must admit that I like that!

    I can see people liking electric vehicles. I just don't see them becoming popular everywhere any time soon.

    Electric cars will be at the mercy of electrical charging rates some day just like gas cars are at a the mercy of gas prices. Sort of like cell phone users (gave up their land lines) are at the mercy of cell phone companies. I don't know of many people who don't complain about how much they must pay for WiFi/month at home.

    If the electric demand for electric cars climbs high enough, it may reduce the demand on fuel. Less demand on fuel may help keep fuel prices down, & that would make my Mirage & I happy!

    If I ever became interested in an electric car or hybrid, my first question would be - how much does it cost to replace the batteries? That may make brake jobs & oil changes seem cheap by comparison?

    If I owned a working crystal ball, I would be a wealthier Mirage owner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Fuel View Post
    The latest Bolt is the only EV I would consider. It has a good range now (250+ miles) and a potentially realistic price. They have an $8,500 incentive and are selling for roughly $10K below MSRP...which puts them into the mid-upper 20s. If that number gets a lot closer to $20K, they might get my attention.

    Forget the $40K PHEV. How about a $9500 iMiev?!?

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    They're getting cheaper...(bolt)https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing I don't know if that price has incentives already in the price?
    I found some cheaper ones up here too. The average dealer list price last time I looked was $45-50,000 last time I looked at bolt prices. $36,000 is better, knock another 10k off and I'd be seriously considering it.

    Edit: I just read some of the fine print fro that add, it includes $1000 from a trade in and my include loyalty rebate etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fummins View Post
    They're getting cheaper...
    Edit: I just read some of the fine print fro that add, it includes $1000 from a trade in and my include loyalty rebate etc...
    Yeah...lots of Jedi mind tricks going on there to arrive at a $23K price tag. I grabbed this off of the dealer's website...

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    That $8500 rebate is no joke...but I'm still a tire-kicker in the mid-20s. If I can get a Bolt in the US for very close to $20K, I would consider it.

    Bolt sales were doing well this year before the covid stuff hit...but the sales numbers are being propped up by that big rebate. At least that's what people in the Bolt forums are saying.


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