Nah it's just raw supply and demand
davidricardo86 (07-02-2021)
davidricardo86 (07-02-2021)
That's how I feel about these 17 SE's (coulda, woulda, shoulda), guess I'm playing the waiting game...
https://youtu.be/9JVNMmsN3Co
It's been a while since the last manual 17 SE but here's one now. I miss the old days
Price: $12,643
Mileage: 72,290
Color: Blue
VIN: ML32A4HJ9HH006003
Location: Classic Kia Beaumont Texas
https://www.classickia.com/auto/used...t-tx/60473420/
Can you guys in the US just buy one from up here? They're cheaper around here it seems. I'd avoid the East like the plague regardless of how much oil has been splattered on it. I'd say look in the Vancouver area for rust free stuff but I looked at a 17' Mirage that the carfax showed being registered in the Surrey area 99% of it's life but the underside was beat to hell, seemed to be all gravel miles.
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View my fuel log 2014 Mirage SE wussie cvt edition. 1.2 automatic: 37.7 mpg (US) ... 16.0 km/L ... 6.2 L/100 km ... 45.3 mpg (Imp)
I just found a 2022 Mirage SE for a few hundred more than that car(after exhange) https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/...0485?undefined
Canada Mirages don't have fast keys, as far as I know so unless that's a must have it might be an idea? I don't know what the import rules are between here and there. And there's a chance you'd have to bring it back across the border to get warranty work?
The only reason I don't list mine for sale is I don't want to drive my truck as a daily and don't want a car loan.
Last edited by Fummins; 11-05-2021 at 12:41 PM.
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View my fuel log 2014 Mirage SE wussie cvt edition. 1.2 automatic: 37.7 mpg (US) ... 16.0 km/L ... 6.2 L/100 km ... 45.3 mpg (Imp)
I'm honestly not knowledgeable on importing cars except that back in the day i always wanted to import 90s Japanese cars. I have seen cars with Canadian and Mexican license plates around here but those may have just been visiting.
To me the reason why a stick 17 SE is special is because in the US in 2017 the Mirage got the revised engine with roller cams, larger brakes, tuned suspension and probably few other enhancements i can't remember. The SE manual had the FAST key push button start, backup cam, and touch LCD. At the time it was a fully loaded Mirage with a manual transmission. The GT trim was technically the highest trim but it only came with the CVT, which is silly in my opinion.
Older 14-15 models had push button start but they also didn't come with some of the other things i mentioned that the manual 17 SE came with.
Prices of Mirages have gone up tremendously. New and used markets are being priced high. Finding a deal seems harder than ever. We're not going back to the old days and old prices that's for sure. With rising gas prices amongst other things, I'm happy to drive my paid off Mirage too.
I've sort of thought this for quite some time. Instead of offering 4 trim levels that aren't really all that different ($2,000 price difference between the top & bottom trim level with a CVT since 2017), I wish they offered two trim levels with the transmission option. A base & top trim level manual and a base & top trim level CVT.
The 2017 SE manual was unique in some ways. White Bear had them for $9,800 brand new in 2017 before another possible $1,500 off in other possible rebates. That was a heck of a deal back then. Pryme had two of them from White Bear, but he traded them both off already. I actually watched his youtube reviews on them before buying my ES from White Bear.
I'm a little jealous of the great deals you and a few others got from White Bear back then. $10k out the door for a new 2021 ES manual will never happen again! I like the idea of simplified trim levels for the manual and the CVT.
I remember watching Mr M's videos hoping one day I'd own one. He paid like $10k out the door as well for his 17 SEs.
Last edited by davidricardo86; 11-05-2021 at 11:48 PM.
I've read into importing a tiny bit because of things like the Suzuki Jimny, and based on my very limited experience and understanding, unless it's more than 20 years old, you're SOL. If it's newer than that, you need to prove that it complies with all federal regulations. There exists a short list of global cars that just happen to be USA road legal no matter where they are sold, but the list is, as stated, short.
If it's not on the list, it doesn't get past the border. Period. Not even allowed in for off-public-road use.
I remember seeing something about Australia having some weird car import laws where, if you're importing a vehicle from another region that isn't road legal in Australia, it has to literally be cut in half before it can even come into the country. Pretty metal.