Oil consumption ?

[Mark]

I noticed 0w16 on the shelf a few years ago, now 0w8 is a thing! https://www.motul.com/ca/en/products/hybrid-0w8

Yep! I know the new Corolla comes with 0W-8 now. Quoting another car discussion elsewhere.

"This new Corolla uses 0W-8 engine oil, the MSRP is $20 per quart, services for this car will be $100 more than you were paying on the old car."

[Mark]

I switched from 0w20 M1 FE to 5w30 M1 Hybrid this oil change and I notice absolutely zero difference.

I only notice a difference when I run an engine without oil. I honestly don't know how anyone can tell a difference in running any type of oil, but my hearing is not what it used to be?

[Fummins]

I too notice zero difference in how an engine runs when different flavored oils are poured in. I do notice that mine runs smoother and has more power when I have an air freshener hanging off the mirror. I can literally feel the difference.

[7milesout]

When I run mine on gutter oil I can smell the difference.

[Mark]

I too notice zero difference in how an engine runs when different flavored oils are poured in. I do notice that mine runs smoother and has more power when I have an air freshener hanging off the mirror. I can literally feel the difference.

You cover both extremes on the forum! Some days you give us the most useful information, and some days not!

I will have to try the air freshener on the mirror & report back!

I did notice a difference pulling the front snow tires off my Mirage the other day. The car definitely rolls smoother without them!

[Grumpy Bear]

See someone post what I was going to.

[sunbeam]

See someone post what I was going to.

They even make 0w0!

https://cermatreatment.com/products/...etic-motor-oil

[sunbeam]

I too notice zero difference in how an engine runs when different flavored oils are poured in. I do notice that mine runs smoother and has more power when I have an air freshener hanging off the mirror. I can literally feel the difference.

Have you tried the redline oil or another group 4/5 yourself to compare?
It may be the hydrocracked group 3's are all similar but the group 3 vs group 4/5 are different.
You may be surprised. I certainly was.

[defensivetackle99]

Yep! I know the new Corolla comes with 0W-8 now. Quoting another car discussion elsewhere.

"This new Corolla uses 0W-8 engine oil, the MSRP is $20 per quart, services for this car will be $100 more than you were paying on the old car."

No way?? You ain’t lying!!!

Seriously, what is the point of allowing lower viscosity on modern vehicle if the higher variant ie 5W-30 has been the norms for a long time? Is it because of $$$? CAFE?? Fed Emission requirement? Lobbyists? Politicians?

[Fummins]

I have no idea what group oil I've used in the past. I've tried all sorts of brands, never redline though. I recall you mentioning your Mirage is your first car.

This is my first car

I think you'd do very well as a service adviser in a dealership.

If grumpy posts the same change in how his engines runs noticably different when using different brand/group of oil oil then I'd consider it. I just have a hard time believing that you can feel what oil is doing. I'm just a skeptic that eats crayons.