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    Good article that puts things in perspective:

    And, if you really want to get indignant with someone, know this: Some of the same ploys that Mitsubishi used to contravene Japanese regulations are the very “loopholes” that European automakers continue to use, all very legally.
    http://driving.ca/auto-news/news/mit...t-fuel-economy


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    Quote Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
    Good article that puts things in perspective:



    http://driving.ca/auto-news/news/mit...t-fuel-economy
    Or the ones US makers (Hyundai, Ford, etc) had used, got caught and still use now until they switch to 2017 guidelines.

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    Definitely an enlightening point of view. Good article MetroMPG.
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    the gift that keeps on giving...

    Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. (MHI) on Monday said it was too early to decide whether to offer support to sister company Mitsubishi Motors Corp., which is facing a financial hit after admitting to falsifying fuel economy data

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    Mitsubishi Heavy offered a lifeline to Mitsubishi Motors after another scandal involving the systematic cover up of customer complaints more than 15 years ago, which brought the automaker close to collapse
    Full article: http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002901044

    The company is holding a news conference tomorrow.

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    Reuters: Mitsubishi Motors used non-compliant data far longer than disclosed: source


    Quote Originally Posted by Reuters Business | Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:11am EDT
    Mitsubishi Motors Corp (7211.T) used fuel economy testing methods that were not compliant with Japanese regulations since 1991 - much longer than previously known, a source briefed on the matter said.
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    Mitsubishi has said that it had been compiling data for fuel economy tests using U.S. standards, where higher-speed, highway driving is common, rather than Japanese standards, which are set to reflect city driving, whose stop-and-go conditions tend to use more fuel.

    The transport ministry on Tuesday announced it had set up a task force to examine how other automakers submit fuel economy data.
    Not too long ago Toyota suffered from accusations of unintended acceleration, and appears to be recovering from that loss of consumer confidence. Their reputation for reliable cars has carried them. Can Mitsubishi be carried too?

    Man, I just bought one! I hope their US dealer network survives this.

    I tend to get pretty good fuel economy driving slower than highway speeds. I think I would do even better if I didn't have to stop so much. Refer to Speck: Fuel Consumption.

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    That's not good news.

    The company's stock market value is now down 50%.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/bu...omy-tests.html

    So far the ONLY redeeming information is that it appears to be contained within the Japanese market.

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    So is it true, our cars cannot do the specified km/l?

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    Japan only

    So far, they are ONLY saying that the cheating was done on the Japan market tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleartec View Post
    So is it true, our cars cannot do the specified km/l?
    Japanese market, "Kei" cars only. Micro cars 660cc motors or less.

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    I believe the latest reports have it affecting cars outside the Kei class now. But still only in the Japanese market (for now).


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